Madonna & Oprah on Love and Lourdes
December 10, 2003
In the January issue of O magazine, Madonna meets up with OPRAH for a chat about how Kabbalah, the birth of her daughter and her husband, Guy Ritchie, have all enriched her life. And yes, she does address that provocative peck with Britney Spears!
First, Madonna revealed that she is very different today then she was 5 or even 10 years ago. “Nothing in the material world will ever make us happy,” she tells Oprah. “I’m so not the Material Girl now. There were many years when I thought fame, fortune, and public approval would bring me happiness. But one day you wake up and realize they don’t.”
When she was pregnant with Lourdes, Madonna divulges that she started thinking about what she would teach her child: “I wanted to understand what I would teach my daughter, and I didn’t really know where I stood on things. I wanted to know the meaning of true and lasting happiness and how I could go about finding it.”
And then, she tells Oprah, Madonna discovered the Kabbalah, what she describes as a “belief system that gives you the tools to deal with life.”
The pop icon also says what makes her relationship work with Guy Ritchie is learning to have “unconditional love” for him. “In the beginning it was conditional, and there were problems. I expected my husband to fit into a mold and to do certain things. When he didn’t do those things, I got disappointed. Then I realized that he is who he is. I had to learn to love him for who he is, and vice versa.”
But the ultra-fit mom of two does admit she gets insecure at times about their age difference (Guy is 10 years younger). “It’s an incentive to stay in shape and look as good as I can, I have to say.”
So what does Madonna know for sure, Oprah asked? “That my husband is my soul mate. That I’m going to meet my mother again someday. That there are no mistakes or accidents. That consciousness is everything and that all things begin with a thought. That we are responsible for our own fate, we reap what we sow, we get what we give, we pull in what we put out. I know these things for sure.”
And as for Britney and their infamous kiss, Madonna says she just went with the flow: “When Britney went to kiss me, she just went for it. I tried to go with it so it wouldn’t be weird. I’m a showgirl.”
The January issue of O magazine is available December 16th. Get a copy for more insights and beauty secrets from Madonna!
Source: Et Online